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Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:46 pm
by Thixotropic
As near as I can tell, this began when I started running BI as a service (which appears to be working correctly, I think)

In the Web Server tab, the "Local, internal (LAN) access" setting has always been 198.162.1.2.

After running BI as a service, after rebooting the PC it ends up on some weird IP like 169.255.x.x or something like that. This (obviously) crashes the connection to the webserver that's always been on 198.162.1.2:99.

Stepping through the Remote access wizard seems to correct it, at least temporarily, but I don't understand why it's changing in the first place. After rebooting it again goes back to some oddball IP.

Also, clicking the "Listen/bind to one selected LAN IP only" checkbox doesn't seem to make it 'stick' to that IP. I'll need to test a little more, but I believe I had that checked initially and it still changed.

Any idea as to what's going on here?
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Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:10 pm
by TimG
Hmm, does the BI pc have a static IP address ? Does the available NIC (on right of ip) also change to the strange address ?
I tried running BI as a service, but it kept crashing. Haven't tried it in months 🤔

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 6:31 pm
by Thixotropic
> Hmm, does the BI pc have a static IP address ? Does the available NIC (on right of ip) also change to the strange address ?

Yes, and yes. And after it changes, I can't edit it in the "Local, internal (LAN) access" box.

It's weird, I have no idea where it's getting this oddball IP from, or why.

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:24 pm
by TimG
Is the static IP for the BI pc set up in the NIC, or in the modem/router ?

and

Could this be due to an interaction with your Ngrok set up :shock:

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:46 pm
by Thixotropic
1) The static IP is set in the router.

2) Yes, it's certainly possible it has something to do with ngrok, but I'd be a little surprised if it did. I got ngrok working before setting BI to run as a service and everything seemed to be stable.

More importantly, nrgrok isn't supposed to do anything but look for incoming requests on the IP specified in the run string- the 192.168.1.2 IP.

I'm also a little concerned that the "Listen/bind to one selected LAN IP only" checkbox doesn't seem to make it stay on that IP.

Finally, I looked in the manual and I didn't see any serious advantage for running BI as a service. It mentions that it'll automatically restart in the event of a PC, OS, or software crash or restart, but you could do that by running it as a scheduled start-up task.

So besides the auto-restart, what's the advantage?



TimG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:24 pm Is the static IP for the BI pc set up in the NIC, or in the modem/router ?
and
Could this be due to an interaction with your Ngrok set up :shock:

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:17 pm
by TimG
Can you try setting the same proper IP address in the BI pc NIC ? It won't do any harm, and it should prevent it being changed.

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:21 pm
by Thixotropic
TimG wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:17 pm Can you try setting the same proper IP address in the BI pc NIC ? It won't do any harm, and it should prevent it being changed.
I'll admit that I have no idea how to do that, lol.

Is that something I'd configure from within Windows or the router or a utility for the NIC? Or in the PC BIOS setup?

I drilled down into the network settings and got to here:
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Select the Network Address and fill in a value of 192.168.1.2 ? Would I need to reboot the PC after this?

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:19 pm
by LOOPYLOOP
Network & Internet Settings - Change Adaptor Options ( or Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network Connections )
Right click on Ethernet, click Properties
Click IPV4 to highlight it, click properties and then change as required
I think that is all that i did.

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:28 pm
by Thixotropic
Thanks, loopyloop. I can't quite see all the fields in the image you posted...here's what mine looks like right now.
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If the BI PC is supposed to be on 192.168.1.2, which field(s) do I enter that in, and what if anything gets put in the other fields? Feel free to mark up my image to show what goes where if you like.




LOOPYLOOP wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:19 pm Network & Internet Settings - Change Adaptor Options ( or Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Network Connections )
Right click on Ethernet, click Properties
Click IPV4 to highlight it, click properties and then change as required
I think that is all that i did.

Re: Weird LAN IP issue

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:49 pm
by LOOPYLOOP
assuming i can post links here this should help
https://portforward.com/networking/stat ... ows-10.htm