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Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:48 am
by Michale32086
I have an interior camera that has part of the living room TV in the middle of the display...
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Whenever anyone is watching TV it always trips the motion sensor.. I have tried to set the sensitivity way down to no avail..

I want to set up a dead zone so that THAT particular area won't trip the motion sensor.. I have played with the ZONES in the TRIGGER TAB but I can't seem to get it to do what I want..

Any assistance would be most appreciated...

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:49 am
by MikeBwca
Unselect that area in the zone.

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:10 pm
by terk
If you want motion alerts even while people are home, I'd look at DeepStack and AITools for person detection to eliminate false alerts. You'd still probably want to create a motion zone without that are monitored but it will still likely trigger sometimes without AI person detection due to the change in lighting from scene to scene.

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:36 pm
by Michale32086
MikeBwca wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:49 am Unselect that area in the zone.
Thanx for the reply... I was able to select a ZONE, but I can't figure out how to exclude it from the TRIGGER...

Thanx again..

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:38 pm
by Michale32086
terk wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:10 pm If you want motion alerts even while people are home, I'd look at DeepStack and AITools for person detection to eliminate false alerts. You'd still probably want to create a motion zone without that are monitored but it will still likely trigger sometimes without AI person detection due to the change in lighting from scene to scene.
Thanx for the reply..

Are those tools add-ons for BI or stand alone programs??

As far as the lighting, yea, I think that's the problem.. The camera is too far away and (lets face it) not to high a quality resolution-wise.. I think it's more of the TV causing lighting changes in a darkened area...

And, again, thanx for the reply..

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:29 pm
by Matts1984
EDIT:: Nevermind, after reading again... everything I alluded to has already been tried and tested. The motion rectangles when it's triggered may help to understand where/what is doing it but it totally could be the lighting issue. Using the AI might help. Right now those tools are separate apps that can be tied in however the dev's (well -> Ken) are fast at work to make it much more seamless if not totally integrated. I haven't explored them but may in the near future. Stay tuned!

Is this what you're looking for? You should be able to exclude the area of the TV from detection. In my screenshot, the yellow areas are active for motion and the few areas without yellow (near a bush and a little flowerbed flag), motion sensing is off.

Hopefully the TV itself is whats causing the trigger as just excluding that isn't a big deal. If the TV is causing lighting artifacts and the whole room is triggering, thats a bit more complicated - very similar to lighting issues outside when clouds go over.

If you follow the numbered button clicks, you can get to the same settings screen.
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Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:17 pm
by Michale32086
Here is what I did..
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I think my confusion comes from what happens next..

Does the act of creating the 'cut out' create an area of non-detection auto-magically, so there is no 'next'??

Thanx for helping...

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:20 pm
by Matts1984
Oh I think you might actually need to reverse it. At least how mine is working - the areas highlighted with yellow are ACTIVE and the areas not highlighted with yellow are ignored. Try doing that and see if it helps (nothing really to lose!)

But with how my screenshot is, when the wind blows the bush or flag, they no longer trigger.

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:26 pm
by Michale32086
I turned on HIGHLIGHT MOTION to get an idea of what I am facing...
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It's beginning to look like an EXCLUSION ZONE will be more problematic..

I am beginning to think that simply relocating the camera might be the best option..

Re: Setting Up A Dead Zone

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:29 pm
by Michale32086
Matts1984 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:20 pm Oh I think you might actually need to reverse it. At least how mine is working - the areas highlighted with yellow are ACTIVE and the areas not highlighted with yellow are ignored. Try doing that and see if it helps (nothing really to lose!)

But with how my screenshot is, when the wind blows the bush or flag, they no longer trigger.
OK I gave that a shot plus I incorporated the blob area into the exclusion zone..

I'll see how that works..