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Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 4:34 pm
by theTinman
I'm attempting to allow my cube camera's internal motion sensors bypass AI.

The manual says Immediate Actions is the place to be, but I'm not sure how to handle timeouts.

Before AI, when a camera's motion sensor triggered, it sent a mqtt "ON" to a topic. When the sensor normalized, it sent an "OFF."

Immediate actions do not have a "Action on End triggered" to the best I can tell.

Without that feature, My best guess is to send an MQTT ACTION of "ON" when triggered, then a WAIT command, and then finally an "OFF".

The WAIT command is confusing to me, because what I think I want is: Continue when, Camera trigger ends
What is available is: Continue when, Camera is re-triggered or trigger ends

Does anyone know the logic I could use to make that work?

Re: Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 11:41 pm
by YrbkMgr
attempting to allow my cube camera's internal motion sensors bypass AI.
What exactly does that mean? Do you not want DeepStack to be used in confirming alerts? If that's it, don't enable DS for that camera. If that's NOT what you're saying, elaborate on what you are trying to do and the strategy you're using.

Re: Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 1:06 pm
by theTinman
In this case, my hikvision have real IR sensors, and I use them for automations in HA.

I don't need Deepstack to analyze IR input, I just need it to trigger. For recording purposes, Deepstack does and should trigger alerts.

Re: Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:14 pm
by YrbkMgr
Maybe it would be better if you described what you're trying to accomplish instead of how you want to accomplish it. With the new features in BI, things have changed and in some cases how one gets things done has changed also. Here's an example of what I'm getting at:

"When the motion sensor is triggered, this is what I want to happen."

You'll get better help that way. The alternative is to contact BI Support through email.

Re: Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:59 pm
by MikeBwca
In BI, on the camera Trigger tab, there is an option 'Camera's digital input ot motion alarm'.
Have you looking into that?

Re: Immediate Action timeout or End trigger

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:27 pm
by theTinman
I do use that, my understanding is the flow is like this:

IR sensor triggers BI > BI takes a picture and sends it to DeepStack> If Deep Stack identifies > Alert on Camera

If you look at the Alerts tab for a camera, there are On Alert and On Reset sections. I can send ON and OFF using those two sections.

In Immediate Actions, there is no On Reset action, so I can set it ON but it would never go OFF.