Blue Iris

Hi,

We have been running BI server on virtual PC - Setup is 30 FullHD cameras mostly from Airlive, 18 FPS limit, Bitrate is between 100-500kb/s per camera, recording is continuous from all of them directly to disk. No alerts, just recording. No HW acceleration

We run the setup above based on Xenon E3-1230v5@3.40 GHz - 6 threads and 16 GB RAM has been enabled and almost fully utilized for most of the time and consume power from other virtual machines. So we decide to upgrade to Core i7-11700 CPU, 32 GB RAM, with an internal CPU graphic card. But when I transfer the configuration, I was surprised with utilization - it keeps on 100% with the same cameras settings.
HW acceleration has been switched from none to all options without any result - still 100% CPU utilization.

Do you have a similar experience? Or any suggestion how to tune options?

One more hint - Even we have a valid licence, there is some issue with handover to new machine - it's possible to activate it, but need to be reactivated after reset. (Reported to support already). Can it have an influence on performance? (I read info about not direct to drive supported on demo)

Thank you

Jindrich

Total pixel throughput is a better measure than cameras but...

There is an online database with user submitted data https://biupdatehelper.hopto.org/default.html#stats

Here are some users with 30 cameras for you to compare to.

I saw that statistic when I ordered the new server. Based on that I assumed I have ordered a more powerful machine (i7-11700 should be next generation CPU than CPU in table).
And result you can see attached

Try the setup steps in the two links below, the important one is setting up sub-stream, that should bring you CPU usage down.

https://ipcamtalk.com/wiki/optimizing-b ... cpu-usage/
https://ipcamtalk.com/wiki/sub-stream-guide/

First let me say, thank you for posting your Status window - that helps tremendously.

I also completely agree with MikeLud. While you do have a beast of a CPU, substreams will make a huge difference in what it has to do and with very little downside. You may actually find that you can turn up the MainStream resolutions (depending on your storage requirements). 664 MP/s is still quite a load.

Devils advocate, and what probably has you reaching out, is that there are older CPUs listed in that table with 30 cams and higher MP/s that are supposedly running lower CPU utilization. Perhaps there is something to that, but I still adamantly think you should give substreams (and a quick read through the MikeLud links) a try. I assume on the Processes tab of your Task Manager that it is saying BlueIris is using all of that CPU (versus something else on the system?)

Thank you for your support and hint with substream - I will definitely test it.
A few updates from last time:
- I've set a limit 15 FPS on the cameras (not on BlueIris, which sometimes return back)
- I've checked and all cameras are HW accelerated now
- SW is re-registered - support prolonged - Notice of evaluation version
- Something unknown happen - utilization drop down a little bit (= not 100% all the time) even WITHOUT any setting above - and yes, it's Blue Iris on top of software - really strange
- Anyway after all settings + magic above - utilization Is approx 40% - see attached picture
- Current data stream - approx. 5600 kB/s and 640 MP/s

So almost solved, just open question - don't you know what are those regular peaks on the graph?

FYI - setting the frame rate in BI won't do anything in most cases if you are using D2D because BI only takes whatever is being transmitted by the camera. Maybe that is for the case when BI is reencoding which there is hardly any good use case.

marceltr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:11 am Thanks for helping with this question!

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TimG wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:53 pm

marceltr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:11 am Thanks for helping with this question!

Thank YOU for highlighting that all four of your posts have been rather spammy in nature. Reported.

Nice catch!!! Agreed.

I installed BI v4 and V5 (licenses, 2v4 and 3v5) on my new Dell XPS 13 2in1 i7 just to see how BI would work on that one and gave up within a day because CPU load was 69 to 88% (Coretemp). 4 Hikvision cameras, 2 3MP and 2 4MP and fans where running nicely "whining". Yes, directdisk, No for substream since I like to get a clear, clean picture on screen when I look at it.
BI v4 and v5 also show no difference in Coretemp concerning CPU temp, memory use, or CPU load. XPS came with win10 pro and upgraded to win11 pro 2 month later. Just my experience with Intel i7. The real problem for me is BIv5 on my Alienware 17r5 Intel i9. CPU, load is 24~30% but the computer stutters and even locks up, but for that I guess I have to go to a different forum post. Thanks